Are Conservatives good for Cities?
This is a posting that I would like everyone to read and leave a comment on your take of this subject. "Are Conservatives good for cities?" A burning question that I've had since the end of the 2005/06 election when we proudly elected Stephen Harper and our Conservatives in Ottawa. Yet no seats in Toronto. Calgary and Edmonton always elect the Tories but outside Alberta we don't seem to do well. Here in Toronto (hogtown), there's a heavy media presence that have a biased opinion of the Conservatives, eg. CityTv, CTV, CFTO, of course CBC, which has very low ratings, but I'll bet it's ratings are highest here in Toronto. The Star, Globe and Mail as well as it's smaller affiliates like The Villager, Now magazine, that all hammer away at the Tories and very friendly to of course liberals. There are right wing media which are the Sun, National Post, Global TV (It's based outside Toronto), I worked very hard to get our Conservative Candidate elected and in the most recent bi-election I worked also to get David Hutcheon elected to the Ontario Legislature, without success. I still think we can win. But the media is no help. Indeed the front page of the Star read: Conservatives bad for Toronto: Miller Toronto mayor David Miller who endorsed Jack Layton for PM would say
that. So why? I think one of the key questions to ask is this: Who gets the money? Why is this important? Here's why. I'll give a quick eg. Normally I drive. But today because my car was in the shop I had to do my business using public transit. After praying for a safe journey, an advertisement on the Subway train said 'Oh Canada, the better way.' It urged that commuters should save their Metropasses and receipts and claim it on their income tax. Commuters will save approx. $300.00 a year by claiming transit passes. So, who gets the money? You do. Not the province, not David Miller and his socialist cronies. You do. But, who wants the money? They do. There was one thing that Stephen Harper said during the election. He was responding to what PMPM was saying about child care. Martin was saying that childcare spaces will be created with the liberal plan. Harper saw through that and said: the liberal plan is like putting money from one department to the next. That's not a solution. Parents need that money now. So again, the Conservatives put money, $100.00 a month into your hands instead of the hands of other governments. The liberal or NDP plan is 'we'll hang onto the money and create childcare spaces.' They both accused the Harper plan of not doing anything for childcare spaces, and for having to claim the $1,200 bucks as income. What scared me more then anything was Taliban Jack's accusations of having to claim the 1,200 bucks as income. It seemed like it defeated the cause. Okay Jack, that's fair. This is my honest opinion. And I say this without any favors to any political parties, including the Conservatives. I think that is being irresponsible. And I think that's what the Conservatives had in mind when they created their childcare plan. Jack Layton is talking about spending billions more for childcare spaces without any regard for the consequences. Deficits I mean. That's not being responsible. Shortly after the election, I saw Olivia Chow on CBC who emphasized, no wait, let me put it this way, EMPHASIZED, that the "Tory plan wouldn't buy a diaper a day." If that wasn't an insinuation that there wasn't enough money being spent, well... you get the point. The NDP plan is spend, spend, spend. With no repercussions for the future.
It's a lot like their healthcare plan, which they more or less created.
There's one thing I think the Conservatives should do to get into cities like Toronto. Toronto is a very multicultural City. Well, I think they should
start 'targeting' these groups. The liberals do because immigrants tend to vote for the Government who brought them here. What they (the Tories), should do is start targeting the families of people already here. This can multiply~ Big time. There's a lot of Chinese and Polish people here. And there's nothing more for an Immigrant then to bring his and her family here. This can even be done quietly. Without liberals and ndp knowing. They can't argue it because they base their votes on Immigrants. I haven't looked, but I wonder what the final votes were here in Toronto after the 1997 election and see if more people liberal. That would prove that Immigrants do vote liberal. Some day I'll look into it.
So, back to the original question. Are Conservatives good for Cities? The answer is yes. Media bias notwithstanding. When local (crazy?), politicians say the Tories are bad for Cities or specifically Toronto (hogtown), they complain of a fiscal imbalance. Or they don't fund local councils. Well actually, the feds pass money to the province and from there, the cities. The Tory plan is fundamentally different. They want you to have that money. This plan cannot apply to every federal program, like for eg. Healthcare or Immigration, but the Tory plan wants to avoid the beaucracy of writing a cheque to a Province only to see that money used for something else. Even the City can do that. Ultimately, it's we, the people,
the taxpayers who loose. A liberal Gov't. wants to hang onto that money for as long as possible and then do something with it. Again, beaucracy. Liberals and NDP want to spend money on things and not give tax breaks like the Conservatives do. They are tax and spend Governments. Conservatives believe money is better left in your hands, while having smaller governments. Less beaucracy, less taxes. Smaller Governments. That's the Tory way. I like it. When Mike Harris was Premier, he was accused of a lot of things. And he did make mistakes. But one thing he did was lower taxes. And unlike Governments before and after his mandate, his tax cuts helped create 1 million new jobs in Ontario. Lower taxes will of course put more money in our hands, create more jobs, expand business, create a bigger economy, generate more revenue for the Government. And I like Stephen Harper better then Paul Martin. I want to get this message out to all the people of Toronto, that once they understand the Conservative plan, they can embrace it, and say, I like that plan and vote Conservative next time. The media won't do anything to help but if us bloggers can do what we can here and throughout Canada, we can have a great Country.
that. So why? I think one of the key questions to ask is this: Who gets the money? Why is this important? Here's why. I'll give a quick eg. Normally I drive. But today because my car was in the shop I had to do my business using public transit. After praying for a safe journey, an advertisement on the Subway train said 'Oh Canada, the better way.' It urged that commuters should save their Metropasses and receipts and claim it on their income tax. Commuters will save approx. $300.00 a year by claiming transit passes. So, who gets the money? You do. Not the province, not David Miller and his socialist cronies. You do. But, who wants the money? They do. There was one thing that Stephen Harper said during the election. He was responding to what PMPM was saying about child care. Martin was saying that childcare spaces will be created with the liberal plan. Harper saw through that and said: the liberal plan is like putting money from one department to the next. That's not a solution. Parents need that money now. So again, the Conservatives put money, $100.00 a month into your hands instead of the hands of other governments. The liberal or NDP plan is 'we'll hang onto the money and create childcare spaces.' They both accused the Harper plan of not doing anything for childcare spaces, and for having to claim the $1,200 bucks as income. What scared me more then anything was Taliban Jack's accusations of having to claim the 1,200 bucks as income. It seemed like it defeated the cause. Okay Jack, that's fair. This is my honest opinion. And I say this without any favors to any political parties, including the Conservatives. I think that is being irresponsible. And I think that's what the Conservatives had in mind when they created their childcare plan. Jack Layton is talking about spending billions more for childcare spaces without any regard for the consequences. Deficits I mean. That's not being responsible. Shortly after the election, I saw Olivia Chow on CBC who emphasized, no wait, let me put it this way, EMPHASIZED, that the "Tory plan wouldn't buy a diaper a day." If that wasn't an insinuation that there wasn't enough money being spent, well... you get the point. The NDP plan is spend, spend, spend. With no repercussions for the future.
It's a lot like their healthcare plan, which they more or less created.
There's one thing I think the Conservatives should do to get into cities like Toronto. Toronto is a very multicultural City. Well, I think they should
start 'targeting' these groups. The liberals do because immigrants tend to vote for the Government who brought them here. What they (the Tories), should do is start targeting the families of people already here. This can multiply~ Big time. There's a lot of Chinese and Polish people here. And there's nothing more for an Immigrant then to bring his and her family here. This can even be done quietly. Without liberals and ndp knowing. They can't argue it because they base their votes on Immigrants. I haven't looked, but I wonder what the final votes were here in Toronto after the 1997 election and see if more people liberal. That would prove that Immigrants do vote liberal. Some day I'll look into it.
So, back to the original question. Are Conservatives good for Cities? The answer is yes. Media bias notwithstanding. When local (crazy?), politicians say the Tories are bad for Cities or specifically Toronto (hogtown), they complain of a fiscal imbalance. Or they don't fund local councils. Well actually, the feds pass money to the province and from there, the cities. The Tory plan is fundamentally different. They want you to have that money. This plan cannot apply to every federal program, like for eg. Healthcare or Immigration, but the Tory plan wants to avoid the beaucracy of writing a cheque to a Province only to see that money used for something else. Even the City can do that. Ultimately, it's we, the people,
the taxpayers who loose. A liberal Gov't. wants to hang onto that money for as long as possible and then do something with it. Again, beaucracy. Liberals and NDP want to spend money on things and not give tax breaks like the Conservatives do. They are tax and spend Governments. Conservatives believe money is better left in your hands, while having smaller governments. Less beaucracy, less taxes. Smaller Governments. That's the Tory way. I like it. When Mike Harris was Premier, he was accused of a lot of things. And he did make mistakes. But one thing he did was lower taxes. And unlike Governments before and after his mandate, his tax cuts helped create 1 million new jobs in Ontario. Lower taxes will of course put more money in our hands, create more jobs, expand business, create a bigger economy, generate more revenue for the Government. And I like Stephen Harper better then Paul Martin. I want to get this message out to all the people of Toronto, that once they understand the Conservative plan, they can embrace it, and say, I like that plan and vote Conservative next time. The media won't do anything to help but if us bloggers can do what we can here and throughout Canada, we can have a great Country.
posted by SouthernTory at 9:23 PM
3 Comments:
I cannot speak for Toronto, but here in Vancouver, it is not just the immigrant community he won't go Conservative, even predominately white affluent ridings such as West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country and North Vancouver went Liberal. Considering here in BC the BC Liberals (who despite their name are centre-right) did win seats in Vancouver proper and did well in suburbs, I believe the problem lies not so much with the Tories' economic policies, but their social policies. Social conservatism is absolutely reviled here and any party with even the slightest hint of it will get clobbered at the polls regardless of how attractive their economic platform is. Besides the Liberals ability to balance the budget, strong economy, and their willingness to cut taxes also made it more difficult for the Tories to appeal to fiscal conservatives.
Miles,
That's a load of crap. I'm a minority (Chinese ethnicity), and I'm a loyal Conservative. Many visible minorities I know, Asian (both Chinese and South Asian) and Black, are strong Christians, and socially conservative and we are even in line with the morals of some moderate Muslims that I know. The problem is entirely with the Liberal-biased media. They spin stories in every instance to make Prime Minister Harper look bad. Fortinately, there is some hope in the form of the Post, Sun, and especially CFRB, to present the truth to the people of Toronto. Hopefully, that socialist idiot Miller does get defeated, and Toronto will have a mayor more friendly to the federal Conservatives.
These are great comments, both of you. I didn't know liberals in B.C.
were centre-right. glad to see I'm
not alone in Toronto (lol). When Stephen Harper apologized for the Chinese head tax, I think he was was looking to make headway with them. Sure it's a political decision, I don't know any Prime Minister who didn't want to be re-elected. And overall, I think he does feel remorse. Okay Toronto Crawler, if the media is the problem, we should get to work on dealing with it. This makes the problem smaller. There is the EYE magazine which is the equivelent of NOW Mag. Except it right wing. Now, let's get more Tory Bloggers here in Toronto. And get our Blogs more viewers.
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